Ceri interviews award winning filmmaker Halina Dyrschka, whose documentary “Beyond the Visible: Hilma af Klint” brought worldwide attention to the pioneer of abstract art. Halina shares her creative experiences, from acting and classical singing to filmmaking, the challenges of securing funding for her documentary and her battle against institutional gatekeeping in the art world. She also talks about how artists can embrace true creativity by recognising the essentialness of exploration and that reality is often overrated!